@yixintai its the lpi-3h board it has the normal AIC8800 baked in but there is a second wifi module on host board. Really its a cool looking project but so underdeveloped that while I am looking for a corporate solution it may not fit needs due to ambiguous notes and docs. I just need to flesh out the ui in android and strip out some of the issues. I just do want to spend days creating configs if someone has a quick answer. As for Corprate or Hobbyist the answer is both. working on a corprate solution but also do a fair amount of teaching my kids haw to make cool stuff like robots powered by Ai but this project is for work. and yes I know an A133 type board would be best but the the dev boards for them are so limited and the sellers are not cool with sharing bsp with US devs. and I have allwinnertech account but everything is not user friendly. We have to mail in our NDAs and they make it really complicated for poeple who dont live mainland to develop. (I love them and hate them at same time) .